Wednesday, March 15, 2006

PRISONER OF HIS OWN ARGUMENT

In a brochure "Paid for by Carper for County Clerk/Recorder Committee"

Eric: "Georgia Volm has used prisoners to do work in the County Clerk/Recorder's office. The day I walk in to (sic) that office, prisoners will no longer be allowed to work in that office."

That was the marker the Carper campaign laid down. They couldn't prove it and now they say that's not what they meant. It's not a process designed to develop intelligent debate.

On the other hand, it does raise the question, what "prisoners" was he talking about?Perhaps he meant his committee which has become a collective "prisoner" of its own, moving target, allegation.

Personal note to Ed Husar: Need an extra copy of the brochure?

7 Comments:

At 6:53 AM, March 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved the all-the-sudden back-tracking yesteerday that was done by the tribal insiders, take the blame off Fisher and place it on probation. Think someone finally listened to Tony, although much too late.

Loved some of Carper's quotes at the forum, " I don't know" "I have no idea", "Like Georgia said...".
One question on finances in the office went fully unanswered by Carper.

 
At 1:00 PM, March 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enough with the community service issue. Blown WAY out of proportion. People do community service EVERYWHERE. To even bring it up is rediculous. Volm proved last night she has a handle on the office. Carper would be statring from scratch, the just want George III reincarnated. Liked Volm's point that she serves the community, not just a party. Sorry if the community comes before the insiders agenda, it DOES as it SHOULD.

Why shouldn't the clerk's office benefit from community service, everyone else does. And enough about them being "criminals/convicts...". Everyone has caught a case of some sort in the time, we all have skeletons in the closet, don't we. Like to know what the folks in the 3-16 mailing were convicted of, bet it wasn't id theft. Probalby some mickey-mouse charges. Only theft that happens in that office is travel receipts when the third ran it.

 
At 1:40 PM, March 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read Ed and Doug's story.

Two women three years ago? And they can hardly be described as criminal masterminds.

Not only am I disgusted with the Carper campaign, I'm furious. I got something from Carper in the mail today and I won't even open it. It goes right in the trash. Right were the outrageously overstated allegations about prisoners and identity theft belong.

You petty, miserable people should be ashamed of yourselves.

3:30 PM

 
At 3:03 PM, March 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a charade and debacle this whole challenge by Carper has turned into. To think that the only reason Carper agreed to run in the first place was because his father-in-law was peeved that he couldn't have the "girls" in the clerks office cater to his every whim to pull the documents he needed in his line of work, you know, those documents that he was billing his clients for when the "girls" in the county clerk's office were doing all the work. And then to get further aggravated because another relative quits in a huff because she doesn't like being told what to do. WAH WAH WAH. This is common knowledge around town but the Carper Crew is so consumed with their own petty, selfish needs and making up scandalous lies that they haven't lifted their heads up long enough to see what the rest of us already know. If there's anyone to feel sorry for here, it's Eric Carper. Imagine being a grown man and having to do what your father-in-law tells you to do. Is he also holding your balls for you in case you need them later, Eric?

 
At 3:52 PM, March 16, 2006, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Anon 503,

I toyed with making you my first rejection. Mr. Carper's Father in Law is a fine man, and I could not mean that any more sincerely. Any strange campaign behavior for which he might be responsible can be attributed not to some base motive but to the fact that he is a political rookie. He is an experienced lawyer. That's not the same thing. He's made misjudgments and Eric has bought into them but he's not pouty, self-centered bully you make him out to be. He's just trying to help his son-in-law and he's caught up in the race (due attribution to Don Henley).

Thank you for stopping but try not to let it get any saltier than this one. This is at least a semi-family blog.

 
At 10:28 AM, March 17, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 5:03 that the community service issue was blown out of proportion. I had no idea the extent of which it was, my God, the insignificance of the charges on the two women!!!

I am very disturbed by the extent to which the community service program was used politally in an attempt to black-wash an opponent. The city, county, and state agencies involved need to get along with each other in order to serve the public. Like Volm said at the debate, we are a COMMUNITY. When someone ill-advisedly goes and uses the community service program as a way to bash an opponent, the agencies are gonna be reluctant to use the program in the future. They're not gonna want to work with each other! Who looses out, we all do!

Also, the fact that Carper is a city employee disturbs me. I think he should be held accountable for the spreading of MISINFORMATION (last nite's HW), especially when it involved county and city agencies.

Remember, the FBI & CIA didn't get along, didn't cooperate, and we get nailed on 9-11-01, people died. The Feds, Louisanna, and New Orleans didn't get along, didn't communicate, and people died needlessly. This situation isn't nearly as severe, but there will be problems, wait and see. Mike Hancox didn't want to get dragged into issues, Fisher didn't either, could you blame them if they said "we won't involve our depts anymore"! Eric went too far with his finger-pointing and mudslinging, thanks for stirring the pot Carper committee. Hopefully the dysfunction in our local govt won't be too bad!

 
At 12:38 PM, March 17, 2006, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Anon 1228,

Excellent points but I think you have to cut Eric some slack on the City Employee/Coopperation Policy argument. Some folks just aren't accustomed to policy thought and on "if-this-happens-then-that-will-be-the-effect" thinking. He relied on advisors, some of whom had personal emnity and revenge on their minds more than Eric's well-being or improved public service. For my part, I don't hold against him. I am disappointed in the folks who should know better.

The excellent leadership of Court Services in Adams County have to heartsick about being politicized. They have always striven to stay out of partisan politics and I think done a pretty good job.

You are also correct, this will impair cooperative functions between the impacted offices. Everyone will take time now to figure out "how will this be portrayed in some insurgent campaign?" Trust has been tarnished, even though none of the principal did anything untrustworthy.

BTW, I don't expect any of the challenger's campaign operatives to understand the preceding paragraph but I think you will.

Thank you for stopping by

 

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