HOOSIER MOMMY? A TRIPLE BREAKTHROUGH
Gary, Hammond Bloomington and Indianapolis
Nobody has beaten Obama in a State bordering Illinois, until last night.
Nobody has beaten Obama in a state where he predicted victory, in his staff conference calls, until last night.
Finally, a nasty breakthrough. On national TV an Obama guy (a guy we know and like here in the Basin) stated that, if Clinton were the nominee she would have to make up in white working class votes the "nine out of ten" african-american votes she wouldn't get. This is the first openly racist appeal I have seen from either side. It was an unfortunate statement by a good guy. I choose to believe he mispoke but I doubt I'm the only person who was concerned about it. Wouldn't surprise me to read about about it in USAT this a.m.
posted by UMRBlog @ 20:42
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18 Comments:
The only thing that remains to be seen is how hard she and Der Schlickmeister will work behind the scenes to ensure a McCain win so she can run again in 2012.
You could not be more wrong. Her only chance to be the candidate to run against incumbent President Pawlenty in '12 is to bust her hump in '08 to help a candidate with no chance. If she takes a dive, the Clinton team will be defunct.
Besides, it's his only chance to win Mass, where he's currently trailing McCain.
I guess when you write your autobiography at 33 you can be forgiven for thinking you're gonna carry Utah in the fall.
TYFCB.
I think that was Edward's strategy also. Doesn't matter. Obama, or anyone we run, will win this November. McCain is a buffone. And of course, a war hero. Thank you Senator for your service. The Republicans know the writing is on the wall. Hillary can get a couple facelifts and run again in 2016.
Forgot to sign in.
While Obama- or any Democrat- may not carry Utah, if the economy continues to be crappy its a fair bet that the Democratic candidate will carry the industrial battleground states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. The difference that Obama brings is that he stands a better shot to break into the Western and Southern U.S. block that Bush carried in 00 and 04.
T101,
Buffone was a linebacker. He now has an excellent radio show in Chicago. "Buffone" is a compliment. Buffoon is what you're looking for, although I disagree with you. McCain's a little bit of a nut job but not a buffoon and not even close to a "Buffone".
TYFCB
1301,
What is the evidence of that? Ask Harold Ford how that Southern Thang worked out.
No democrat without a specific plan for middle class job uplift or tax relief has won Ohio since 1964. Whether true or not BO is going to be painted as Hyde Park Lefty. That's a tag unlikely to win both PA and OH. One maybe.
In the words of James Carville "How many Idahos does it take to Make a California?"
Umr
So, do you think it's still in the best interest of the party for Hillary to soldier on?
Gawd Yes!
Two compelling reasons. Will 'splain in a few minutes.
TYFCB
How bout this Umr buddy. Hilaree is a bufune. She lost after Iawu but nobudy told her. I agrie that she shuld soljer on. She can luuk to raysing ten millyon dollars after Pennsilveinya, even thoe six millyon of it was frum Bill.
See O imitate a North Carolina voter.
TYFCB
1409,
Two reasons it is in the party's best interest for HRC to continue:
First, every place there is a contest, the local organizations pile up beautiful voter lists--Nothing is more beautiful to a skilled precinct worker than a hard list of identifiable dem. voters. Locals will win Indiana County and district races because the area organizations will know whom to haul. For those who have never done precinct work, it is impossible to understand how these things are pure gold. It would be a shame to deprive Kentucky and West Va. of them;
Second, Obama needs an opponent to make peace with Florida and Michigan. If she pulls out and then he says "Oh, seat them" they will never forgive him for his earlier passive-aggressive opposition to a revote. If he has an opponent with whom to negotiate and they can jointly say how much they care about the voters of MI and FL (even though that's only half true) he can get forgiveness in Michigan. Michigan's a real mess from a democrat perspective and we can't afford any more mistakes there. Florida's just always a greasefire.
There are some other reasons why a continued contest is good but these are the two biggest.
TYFCB
She's staying in to help Obama in the general, or that's just the consequence of her action? Do you think she can still win?
Consequence.
I said for the last two weeks 5-1 against. Last night came out exactly as I thought it would so I see no reason to change the odds today just because Tim Russert wets himself.
These pundits are really a hoot. They all say for the last two weeks that they're gonna split and that she'll keep going afterwards because she wins the next two. Then they DO split and all of them are saying "She hadda win NC. It's over!" OK, fine, why weren't you saying in advance of NC that she hadda win NC.
She's staying in because she's the default if he stubs his toe. If she drops out and TSG comes out with pictures of him naked with Bill Ayres in a room with mirrors, you get your basic Al Gore recycle or John Tester wet dream. She's gotta stay in in case he somehow can't make it to the finish line. She's given a year of her life and both of their first book proceeds to this thing now. There's not much money left to spend. Likely her only chance to be POTUS. Walking away now would pee her only chance and her previous investment away.
TYFCB
In 1992 Clinton was painted as a draft-dodging flag burner adulterer- and he won OH and PA in 92. It seems to me every candidate has a specific economic plan by October- but lots of campaigns don't really unveil specific plans until the general election phase. Obama beats McCain head-to-head in CO and is tied with McCain in NC. The RNC- or their 527 surrogates- may pull a Playboy bunny ad if they get desperate- but I don't know if you can compare the Ford, Jr. campaign to the Obama campaign. The south will be in play a little bit more than ususal because they fundies will probably stay home more than they did for Bush.
You make good points but I'll point out two counterpoints. First, BObama has never faced a presentable General Election Opponent, ever. Tough Primaries, yeah, but no General.
Two, being competitive in NC is a high price to pay for losing, say Mass., where he's behind in the McCain heads-up and Michigan. A sniff in CO is a tough trade for no chance in Missouri.
But you do make good points. Some of the Obama apologists have visions of Alabama and Utah dancing their haids.
But your wishful comment about programs inferentially points up one of BO's weak points: he just doesn't like policy. He likes to rise above mere governance.
TYFCB
You are definitely right about the gen. election opponent- Remember when the IL Rep. tried desperately to get Mike Ditka to run against him after the borg hottie's husband dropped out? It was like some sort of SNL skit.
It would be more than a slap in the face if Hillary took the nomination from Obama at this point. It would destroy the Democratic party and block any chance that the party could win in November.
There are some who argue we are close to that point already, that the machinations of Clinton with the Superdelegates is turning off young voters who signed on to the Obama campaign because of his promise of the "new politics."
This is why the party is so anxious to get the primaries behind them. And Hillary Clinton - for the moment - won't let them.
In the words of James Carville, 'If you want it over, just beat 'er" Every delegate counts for one vote.
I'll bet you won't find one Kentucky dem. leader who wants it to be over now. That BIG list of dem primary voters is precious.
TYFCB
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