Wednesday, December 10, 2008

WHAT'D HARRIS DO?

I've read the charge/affidavit. I'd rather be Harris' Defense Lawyer than Blago's.

Looks to me like the evidence to date is just Harris thinking out loud about ways the Governor might benefit from a series of circumstances. Unless Harris did something to make those things happen, he's not guilty of any crime. Thinking, generally speaking, is not a crime. Talking about "what ifs", generally speaking, is not a crime.

And, No, I don't know Harris. I'm just looking at the affidavit.

21 Comments:

At 9:05 AM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not much more than goes on at city hall with your mayor.

 
At 9:44 AM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's lik esaying the wolf was just counting the sheep!! Right

 
At 9:45 AM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

If you've got a specific complaint about a public official's integrity, identify it, source it and perhaps we can discuss it. You can stay as anon as you want but you have to do better some than some mystery meat conclusion.

TYFCB, pitiful as your offering was.

 
At 9:59 AM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

0944 BushWhacker,

Hi, Buddy,

Good to have you back. No, actually, it's not at all like that. It's a dumbed-down explanation of the established legal principle called ".....act in furtherance..." of a conspiracy. A conspiracy must always be more than thinking and more than talking. Somebody must do something to move the football. After somebody does any small thing to move the football, then a whole new principle sets in called "...Timely withdrawal..."

Read the affidavit. You can click on it through any almost any Illinois Daily's website. See if you can see where Harris did anything but think and talk. That doesn't mean the Gov't doesn't have more. It's just an interesting legal issue.

TYFCB

 
At 10:20 AM, December 12, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

BENNETT & MIDDENDORF LTD. 901 YORK STREET
QUINCY, IL 62301 $500.00
6/27/2007

BROWN ELECTRIC 1309 WATTS LANE
QUINCY, IL 62305 $500.00
6/27/2007

CHS EMPLOYEE BENEFIT SERVICES 331 SOUTH 36TH STREET
QUINCY, IL 62305 $250.00
6/27/2007

CULLINAN COMPANIES LLC 211 FULTON STREET
PEORIA, IL 61602 $500.00
6/27/2007

ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT CORPORATION 1001 BOARDWALK SPRINGS PLACE
SUITE 100
OFALLON, MO 63368 $500.00
6/27/2007

EAGLE VALLEY LABOR MANAGEMENT 1900 HARRISON ST
QUINCY, IL 62301 $650.00
6/27/2007

KLIGNER & ASSOCIATES 616 NORTH 24TH ST
QUINCY, IL 62301 $650.00
6/27/2007

QUINCY RECYCLE 526 SOUTH SIXTH STREET
QUINCY, IL 62301 $500.00
6/27/2007

WESTERN CATHOLIC UNION 510 MAINE STREET
QUINCY, IL 62301 $500.00
6/27/2007





Now Tony I was not the anon , but your prodding did make me look . Not saying pay to play but almost all of these "donors" has ties with City Hall in contracts of monies .



JUST saying...........

 
At 10:31 AM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've got plenty of specific complaints about yours and plenty of others down there at the TajCityHall.

It's pay to play baby, pay to friggin play. No difference from the state.

 
At 11:00 AM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He QUIT is what he did

 
At 2:15 PM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Took,

That's why we have campaign disclosure laws in Illinois. So people can make perfectly lawful political arguments like you just made.

Then the public gets to decide what the impact of that information is. The anon compared a local official to Blago who was clearly not talking about any benefit that would have been publicly disclosed.

And, of course, you understand that we can't rec'v accounting services and audit services from the same firm since EnRon, so we're always gonna have multiple accountants. And I know you know how many RPE Engineering firms there are in town.

See, we can talk about your D-2 cut and paste. Anon just gives us conclusions....can't have an intelligent discussion about conclusions.

TYFCB

 
At 2:18 PM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

UMR, I understand you being specfic and you are correct. But as a taxpayer who is tired of being ripped off I'm all for the firing squad and then you lawyers can sort out the details afterwards. These two guys are dirty, everyone knows they have been dirty for a very long time and I just want to see someone with balls slay one of them.

I believe if taxpayers don't see someone punished for ripping off the system soon, we are goin gto have some serious trouble in the streets of this country.

Joe Six-Pack is pretty tired of being hassled for seat belts, smoking, school zone speed traps and numerous other things while the priveledged walk with his money.

just some random thoughts. Have a great no governor weekend.

 
At 3:37 PM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Bushemups,

I guess this means you're not too much in favor of the commutation for Geo Ryan, huh?

You have a great weekend and a joyous holiday season.

TYFCB

 
At 3:39 PM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

1100,

No doubt because he wanted to spend more time with his family.

TYFCB

 
At 4:14 PM, December 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

215 ummmer

You're wrong. Tookie has displayed exactly what I'm talking about. Pay to play. Who's the bag man for you dinglenuts?

 
At 7:45 PM, December 12, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

I like election laws , the issue I have is the local press is like the Dems in power , no one ever "peeks" .

Now I "peek" and know , but some think that I have a horse in the race . I really don't my poli sci -ness still has too much CWS let U/G look like her gets it .





That is until NOW


:)

 
At 9:29 PM, December 12, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

1614,

You just have to do better than just calling people names. At least Tookie did some amateur anthropology and read the cave walls.

Your clock is running and you haven't created even one inference of any impropriety. You know nothing or you are so unskilled at expressing yourself that you really aren't taking this general broken syllogism of "A State Politician Appears Crooked, therefor a local politician or several must also be crooked"

It could be lamer but it's difficult to see how.

Read a book or something. de Toqueville or Royko would be good.

TYFCB, lamely

 
At 12:07 AM, December 13, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

I always do my research . "I'm not saying......"


Just I read, research and research again and call a spade a spade..........


But I am not saying......


Ok , maybe I am "saying" but instead of filling in the blanks < I let free will into play .

 
At 8:09 AM, December 13, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umr 929

Be as big of a smartass as you need to be to make yourself feel smart.

Tookie's cave drawings are a problem for your boy Spring. I suspect you already know that and have formulated a much less lame defense.

 
At 8:53 AM, December 13, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Tookie 1207,

Frightening; I might be the only person on the planet who understands every word of your comment. I believe I'm now in TookieSpeak Graduate School.

TYFCB

 
At 8:59 AM, December 13, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

0809,

This just in? Some people who have contracts with a unit of municipal government contribute to its elected officials? Wow! That's really ground breaking stuff.

It's lawful and reported transparently at the required intervals and it's some kind of big political stink? Get serious.

How about you point out something that's new or different? D-2's are like an entry level skill.

TYFCB and try to do better next time.

 
At 10:42 AM, December 13, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

M******* **** *** **** ****** *****




I just can't stop laughing at that.


Tookie

 
At 1:21 PM, December 13, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will a Republican run for something in this town without getting a boatload of money from Knapheide?

 
At 3:20 PM, December 13, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Generalist mouth-breather anon. I whacked your post not because it disagreed with my view or contradicted your other posts about 8 times and not even for your personally unflattering description of me but because it contained an unfounded personal attack.

You can't talk about "bagman" and then say you weren't talking about illegal activity. Get your story straight and post something worthy of all the inside information you claim to have.

You're a one trick pony and I've told you before we're done with this trick. Develop a new one.

TYNVMFCB

 

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