Monday, August 04, 2008

LIQUOR CONTROL IN QUINCY AND ADAMS COUNTY

If you're a parent of a 17-20 year old and you buy beer or other adult beverages for your child and a few dozen of his closest friends so they can have a "lock-in" party at a "safe" location, you suffer from one of two problems:

a) You're an asshole;

b) You have such a crappy self-image, that you desperately need to be loved;

If you do what I described above and then provide no adult supervision during the "lock-in", see "a)" above. (even the adult supervision part is pretty weak.)

If somebody calls you on your irresponsibility and you say "it's better than having them driving around God knows where and drinking!" You are both "a)" above, and pitiful.

Innocent people have died because of enablers like you.

You know who you are and more people than you think know who you are. Cut it out!

14 Comments:

At 7:45 AM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are old enough to die for your country you're old enough to have a beer.

Many countries don't even have a minimum age and have far fewer problems with minors and alcohol than our own. But our nanny government trying to legislate good parenting makes it all that much more appealing to young people.

Just because you may become addicted, get drunk and cause a wreck or otherwise screw up your life you're going to penalize everyone? Now that is a true asshole.

 
At 7:57 AM, August 04, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Tennessee considered an approach for this: Drinking age 16; Driving Age 21.

If you really believe what you wrote above, you need to find a candidate for the state legislature who supports removal of a drinking age. If you find one, make sure they also support an increase in EMS services.

TYFCB.

How many kids you know are dead when they were supposed to be "safe" in drinking lock-ins? I can name three just in the last ten years.

How may adult innocent victims are dead at the hands of kids who were supposed to be at lock-ins? I can name two with whom I was acquainted. Wonder how the "liberal" purchasing parent lives with that one. Dead is dead. Dangerous is Dangerous. People who put kids at risk are assholes.

I'll remember Nanny Government next dead kid turns up or next dead civilian taken out by a drunk kid.

 
At 8:11 AM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not condoning parents throwing parties for kids and buying them enough alcohol to stock a bar for a month, I'm just saying that it is the parents' and the young adults' (once they turn 18) responsibility.

I think it is too late to remove the drinking age in the US, we have too many parents that rely on the government to do the parents' job.

We would have millions of drunken irresponsible 16 year olds out on the road but lowering the drinking age to 18 and stiffening penalties for adults buying for children and possession for those under 18 could be considered.

The federal nanny state would never allow it though. LA tried it until the feds threatened to take away their highway funds.

 
At 8:27 AM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DWI in a City car and what happened ? Nothing

 
At 11:53 AM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The raised drinking age from 18 to 21 is nothing more than the federal government legislating morals.

Its just like the seat belt legislation. They are going to save us from ourselves. Once these special interest groups get thier fingers in the doors they push for more. The general public sits around like livestock waiting to be prodded in whatever direction thier special interest handlers want.

Our government and its leaders continue to bow to the almighty dollar whenever they get a chance. In this case the insurance companies. If corperations see a way they can push legislation into effect and make themselves a stronger profit, then they spend the money through lobbiest to get what they want.

Do you actually think that raising the minimum drinking age would have passed a popular vote?

What about the seatbelt laws?

Everyday US citizens have more and more of thier individual rights stripped away by our governement. The Dems want to take certain liberties away and the Repub want to legislate morals.

We all know you are a religious person. How would you feel if the government fined you for not attending Sunday services?

We know your a patriotic person. How would you feel if the governemnt fined individuals for not voting?

How is legislating the drinking age any different the two previous possiblities? If an individual is of age to serve in the military and pay the ultimate price, why are we stripping one of thier personal liberties?

 
At 12:22 PM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They could always waive the minimum drinking age if you are a member of the armed services. Maybe that would help the enrollment numbers.

That being said, I completely agree with the point on the supervised beer parties. Be a parent, not a buddy.

 
At 12:33 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

1153,

Really straining to see what that has to do with this topic but I do appreciate your point on "morals".

See, the thing is, almost every society has as one of its moral imperatives protecting children from their own unschooled and unrefined judgment until they reach an age where they are more likely not to hurt themselves and others. Seems to me stocking a blast for teens falls outside that pretty universal moral imperative.

TYFCB

 
At 12:35 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

0827,

Your information is wrong about four counts but still difficult to see what that has to do with providing liquor to children.

TYFCB

 
At 2:18 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

8:27 is right on HOW MANY COUNTS ?

Job Loss ......... nope

Loss of clout ........ nope


Try to spin one that isn't "radioactive" .

M. Mueller is a hero .

 
At 2:21 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

I also disagree with your premise . I bet you $25 you had a beer with your dad underage .

This is yet another point of buckle up , but no head protection on a motocycle , place children in car seats until they are 15 , gun locks , blah blah blah .........




We are making a generation of P***ys . Helmuts for bikes eraces Darwin .


So I agree to holy disagree with your post

 
At 2:22 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

Also I am called Mr "a" a ton so I will just go ahead and check a.)

 
At 3:25 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Tookie--

Follow the bouncing ball. I'm not talking about parents and children sharing beverages at home and staying home. I'm talking about dangerous a's who stock party houses and then are so sorry when one of the kids happens to die or get maimed because they didn't stay the night.

Taking dangerous risks with one's own children is bad enough. Enabling other people's children to take huge risks is just assholeness, plain and simple.

This not not about "drinking with Dad."

And, yes, I did. But my Dad never gave anything alcoholic to anybody else's underage children, or even drank when they were in the house. Apples and Oranges, my man.

I have defended you many times when called the A-word. More people should see you with small children and dogs.

TYFCB

 
At 4:26 PM, August 04, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

"I'm talking about dangerous a's who stock party houses and then are so sorry when one of the kids happens to die or get maimed because they didn't stay the night."

The kicker is right there . Well then I agree , but we do already have laws for this .

Also no matter what shit still happens .

Sucks but it is a fact of life .


Somedays you eat the bear other days the bear eats you

 
At 11:43 AM, August 06, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is this house party?

 

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