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Here's the next big thing. City Attorney goes door to door to the people who have been laid off or had their hours cut and the SS recipients who will not be getting a COLA and thanks them for paying higher taxes to pay for his health insurance and pay increase. Wouldn't that be the honorable thing to do?
Tell us more, don't leave us hanging!!
Obsessive 1529,
I guess I'd find your off topic contribution more compelling if our recent tax bills showed an increase, rather than a decrease, in the City's tax rate.
Your comment indicates you think COLA's for SS recipients are a good thing, true?
And, only said they are not getting a COLA, true?
The "tax rate" scam is just that, a scam.
That's a conclusion. We await your carefully crafted reasoning--However off topic you may be by now.
TYFCB
"Regardless of whether the tax rate has dropped, if my out-of-pocket payment for taxes has increased, my taxes have increased. I'm paying more. The fact that I would have been paying LOTS more if the tax rate hadn't fallen is immaterial. My taxes have NOT gone down if I'm paying more."
I can see the point of the person who said this to me.
Your topic sucked. You can claim lowest tax rate in the last hundred years, that means little when the amount of taxes paid goes up. Get it?
Gosh, I had expected better. Did your amount attributable to the City go up? Not your whole tax bill--only nimrods make that argument.
Oh, and if it did by a few pennies, how was it effected by the State multiplier, over which the city has no control?
TYFCB
So...if there were LOWER taxes would you have the money to buy the cigarettes?
Did your amount attributable to the City go up? Check your own tax bill.
It should be going down. Only a ninrod would make the argument that taxes need to up every year.
OMG,
Somebody actually read the "sin tax" piece! There actually are people on the Web who don't suffer from ADD. My day is made!
TYFCB
I know what mine said. I'm not the one who said the rate reduction is a scam. I can't know if your property value went up, or even if you own property. It's your argument and your tax bill.
Don't think I argued that taxes need to go up every year.
"Don't think I argued that taxes need to go up every year."
Then why do think it's a good thing for taxes to go up this year?
4:13 PM
Here's the problem when you work for a politician, and I use that term loosely in your case. You have to somehow find a way to formulate an argument to support the position of the administration that gives you a paycheck even when the policy is wrong. On the national level Obama has appointed brilliant people who are arguing for bad policy, sometimes effectively, sometimes not. If you want to have the most effective argument, be right. You are neither right in supporting these raises (taxes and pay), nor effective in your argument.
1717
One trick pony. You find something I didn't say and then tell me I'm wrong for not saying it. 'Shroons?
TYFCB
1725,
Thanks for explaining "the problem".
Here is the "The Problem" with what you're discussing. I didn't bring up anybody's pay. I didn't formulate any argument about anything, just asked somebody for some info about his tax bill, which was not forthcoming.
Useless, but thanks for the time.
7:43 PM
So do you or do you not support your pay raise? Simple yes or no will do. Good luck.
I shall not ignore your question. Day job beckons for now.
TYFCB
10:19 AM
Apparently, you will ignore the simple yes or no response request. This has lawyerspeak-non-question-answering written all over it.
There was no request. There was a command or a demand, which I will ignore.
You show how openminded you are by bashing my response before you've even seen it.
You're now in the full mentalist mode.
The vote not to amend the budget for non-union employees (which includes me) was 9-5. I believe it was correctly decided by the nine aldermen.
First, the budget was adequately vetted and subject to commentary for before the new FY started. It would be a little silly for the rollover alderman to be fore a budget on month and against it the next.
Second, the message that we will treat non-union employees differently from those who organize would not have been subtle and the next action would have been predictable.
Third, the "raise" ship had alredy sailed. The new aldermen were already recipients of a positional raise. Leaders lead. If they thought goose eggs for FY10 were a good idea, they would have taken goose eggs themselves. Once the decision to effect pay increases was made there, it kind of made itself for the non-leadership people.
So, yeah, I support the counsel's decision on the failure of the "non-union employee" budget amendment.
TYFCB
9:34
I expected you'd answer the question on procedure only. They question was intended to be do you think you or anyone that works for the city including union should be taking raises right now. Thanks for trying. That's what I get for asking a lawyer a straightforward yes or no question. Enjoy your raise.
"Including Union"? What an interesting concept! Who do you think voted on approving the Union workers pay increases? Gosh, that was the City Council, too.
Legislators legislate. What a concept!
TYFCB
Just say you won't answer the question instead of hiding behind the council. Enjoy your raise on the backs of the producers.
Just say you won't accept any answer except yours and enjoy your bile.
TYFCB
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