Saturday, May 30, 2009

THE NEXT BIG THING

Ta Da! Electronic Cigarettes! Available at your local Best Buy soon. No nicotine, no tar, only small danger of electrocution.

American Ingenuity.

26 Comments:

At 3:29 PM, May 30, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the next big thing. City Attorney goes door to door to the people who have been laid off or had their hours cut and the SS recipients who will not be getting a COLA and thanks them for paying higher taxes to pay for his health insurance and pay increase. Wouldn't that be the honorable thing to do?

 
At 5:11 PM, May 30, 2009, Blogger Potstirrer said...

Tell us more, don't leave us hanging!!

 
At 4:00 PM, May 31, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Obsessive 1529,

I guess I'd find your off topic contribution more compelling if our recent tax bills showed an increase, rather than a decrease, in the City's tax rate.

Your comment indicates you think COLA's for SS recipients are a good thing, true?

 
At 5:57 PM, May 31, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, only said they are not getting a COLA, true?

 
At 8:36 AM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "tax rate" scam is just that, a scam.

 
At 11:59 AM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

That's a conclusion. We await your carefully crafted reasoning--However off topic you may be by now.

TYFCB

 
At 12:38 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Regardless of whether the tax rate has dropped, if my out-of-pocket payment for taxes has increased, my taxes have increased. I'm paying more. The fact that I would have been paying LOTS more if the tax rate hadn't fallen is immaterial. My taxes have NOT gone down if I'm paying more."

I can see the point of the person who said this to me.

 
At 1:37 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your topic sucked. You can claim lowest tax rate in the last hundred years, that means little when the amount of taxes paid goes up. Get it?

 
At 2:10 PM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Gosh, I had expected better. Did your amount attributable to the City go up? Not your whole tax bill--only nimrods make that argument.

Oh, and if it did by a few pennies, how was it effected by the State multiplier, over which the city has no control?

TYFCB

 
At 3:29 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So...if there were LOWER taxes would you have the money to buy the cigarettes?

 
At 3:31 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did your amount attributable to the City go up? Check your own tax bill.

It should be going down. Only a ninrod would make the argument that taxes need to up every year.

 
At 3:35 PM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

OMG,

Somebody actually read the "sin tax" piece! There actually are people on the Web who don't suffer from ADD. My day is made!

TYFCB

 
At 4:13 PM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

I know what mine said. I'm not the one who said the rate reduction is a scam. I can't know if your property value went up, or even if you own property. It's your argument and your tax bill.

Don't think I argued that taxes need to go up every year.

 
At 5:17 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Don't think I argued that taxes need to go up every year."

Then why do think it's a good thing for taxes to go up this year?

 
At 5:25 PM, June 01, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:13 PM

Here's the problem when you work for a politician, and I use that term loosely in your case. You have to somehow find a way to formulate an argument to support the position of the administration that gives you a paycheck even when the policy is wrong. On the national level Obama has appointed brilliant people who are arguing for bad policy, sometimes effectively, sometimes not. If you want to have the most effective argument, be right. You are neither right in supporting these raises (taxes and pay), nor effective in your argument.

 
At 7:40 PM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

1717

One trick pony. You find something I didn't say and then tell me I'm wrong for not saying it. 'Shroons?

TYFCB

 
At 7:43 PM, June 01, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

1725,

Thanks for explaining "the problem".

Here is the "The Problem" with what you're discussing. I didn't bring up anybody's pay. I didn't formulate any argument about anything, just asked somebody for some info about his tax bill, which was not forthcoming.

Useless, but thanks for the time.

 
At 7:36 AM, June 02, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:43 PM

So do you or do you not support your pay raise? Simple yes or no will do. Good luck.

 
At 10:19 AM, June 02, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

I shall not ignore your question. Day job beckons for now.

TYFCB

 
At 12:17 PM, June 02, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:19 AM

Apparently, you will ignore the simple yes or no response request. This has lawyerspeak-non-question-answering written all over it.

 
At 12:49 PM, June 02, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

There was no request. There was a command or a demand, which I will ignore.

You show how openminded you are by bashing my response before you've even seen it.

You're now in the full mentalist mode.

 
At 9:34 AM, June 03, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

The vote not to amend the budget for non-union employees (which includes me) was 9-5. I believe it was correctly decided by the nine aldermen.

First, the budget was adequately vetted and subject to commentary for before the new FY started. It would be a little silly for the rollover alderman to be fore a budget on month and against it the next.

Second, the message that we will treat non-union employees differently from those who organize would not have been subtle and the next action would have been predictable.

Third, the "raise" ship had alredy sailed. The new aldermen were already recipients of a positional raise. Leaders lead. If they thought goose eggs for FY10 were a good idea, they would have taken goose eggs themselves. Once the decision to effect pay increases was made there, it kind of made itself for the non-leadership people.

So, yeah, I support the counsel's decision on the failure of the "non-union employee" budget amendment.

TYFCB

 
At 9:49 AM, June 03, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:34

I expected you'd answer the question on procedure only. They question was intended to be do you think you or anyone that works for the city including union should be taking raises right now. Thanks for trying. That's what I get for asking a lawyer a straightforward yes or no question. Enjoy your raise.

 
At 9:55 AM, June 03, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

"Including Union"? What an interesting concept! Who do you think voted on approving the Union workers pay increases? Gosh, that was the City Council, too.

Legislators legislate. What a concept!

TYFCB

 
At 12:14 PM, June 03, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just say you won't answer the question instead of hiding behind the council. Enjoy your raise on the backs of the producers.

 
At 1:19 PM, June 03, 2009, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Just say you won't accept any answer except yours and enjoy your bile.

TYFCB

 

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