Friday, August 08, 2008

UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER BASIN AUGUST 7, 2006 (FOR THOSE OF YOU SCORING AT HOME, THAT'S TWO YEARS AGO)

(When I wrote this, I thought I'd have to "round up" to be at four dollar gas--like 3.899 or something. I should have had more faith in the system.)

Major pipeline break in BP infrastructure in Alaska. Probably worth a .50 increase. (Be a good idea for you to get gas before lunch time today). How'd you like to be the incumbent party, looking for crossovers when you're the guys who brought em' four dollar gas.


Guys, the four dollar gas is wallpaper behind all this. It spoils the picture for the GOP and their pals the "Earl Men", not to mention Uncle Dick has secret meetings (presumably unarmed) with the "Earl Man" buddies.

(Special note: for the reading-challenged. This post didn't--and I still don't--blame the GOP for the price of gas. The comment was that it would make their next election difficult.)

17 Comments:

At 6:40 AM, August 08, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

Tuesday, April 18, 2006
over 2 years ago and before your Aug 7th 2006 date.
Washington, D.C. – House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement today on news reports that the price of oil has skyrocketed to more than $70 a barrel: “Democrats have a plan to lower gas prices, taking America in a new direction that works for everyone" I see that it(plan) is finally starting to get gas prices to come down. Maybe not allowing a vote on drilling and doing nothing is a good plan after all.

 
At 12:13 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

So you agree with me that it is not fair to blame the administration which runs the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, but enthusiastically blame the congress. which is not charged with creating day-to-day energy policy.

Maybe I'll quit trying to be fair and evidence-based and just to on Tookie-rants.

But, the point you probably didn't mean to make is intereresting. Government doesn't have the stones to tell energy consumers the truth about worldwide petroleum demand and, by and large, to propose conservation and alternative energy schemes.

TYFCB

 
At 12:29 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

Hey now .........

 
At 1:11 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

She's the one that claimed to have a plan, not me. Doing nothing seems to be a specialty of Congress these days. This should have been addressed after the 70's gas/oil problems. Most people in the US want to blame someone but don't consider the other users of gas & oil. My posts have made reference to other sources of energy; wind, solar, geothermal, tides, switch grass ethanol, algae bio diesel, nuclear, natural gas & coal all can play a part in the future but taking away the incentive to invest is not a good plan in my opinion. I am on my way to auto parts store to get my air gauge, got to do my part you know.

 
At 2:54 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

TSpudster,

Actually, other than pimping gov't officials, we pretty much agree. Most of the Ethanol experts think the switch grass and other cellulisic materials as a basis for ethanol are at least a moist dream. But yeah, if we have incentives for scientists to develop alternatives way outside the box back in 197x, maybe this mess would be better now.

One thing we agree on is, no matter who is advocating it when, "Windfall profits Tax" for someone who risks his or its capital to make, transport and sell a product is a pretty silly proposition and contrary to the history and heritage of this country. We bust cheaters, not successful capitalists.

TYFCB

 
At 2:56 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Tookasaurus Rex,

I'm gonna be outta the hood this weekend but we gotta talk. You need a chiropractic brain manipulation. I'll get you in alignment.

TYFCB

 
At 4:10 PM, August 08, 2008, Blogger TOOKIE said...

on which topic ? Hahaha You got my celly .

 
At 11:16 AM, August 09, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This should have been addressed after the 70's gas/oil problems."

NICE POINT!

America inability to think outside the box or the oil companies dollars is coming back to bite US.

Has anyone else seen, read, or studied what Brazil did after the 70's?

With our assests and abilities, why haven't we put ourselves in the same position that Brazil has?

 
At 3:50 PM, August 09, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

Maybe Congress can sue the Russians for attacking Georgia. A cynical person might think they did it to drive the price of oil back up to $140.Seems like a favorite ploy for Chavez or Iwanttodoyourdad from Iran.

 
At 9:11 PM, August 09, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

AGQ,

Your overall point about innovation and maximizing our resources is well taken. Let's be a little careful about the Brazil Comparison. They are not stupid enough to USE FOOD to make fuel. They use waste, processed sugar cane.

TYFCB

 
At 8:17 AM, August 10, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

That's why switch grass and algae should be used and corn left for food. Switch grass is more efficient even better than sugar which is about 4 times better than corn. It's the corn lobby that's driving the use of corn and it really isn't much better than oil. Now that the processing plants have been built, they will fight tooth and nail to keep other energy sources off the market like the oil companies do.

 
At 8:58 AM, August 10, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

There are a couple of honest-to-goodness science problems with switch grass. I had it explained to me by a biochemist with no dog in the fight and what he said makes sense.

But I couldn't agree more with you on the Corn-ethanol lobby. It's amazing how quickly and interest becomes entrenched.

TYFCB

 
At 5:23 PM, August 10, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

It's Cellulosic ethanol. It has a net energy content three times higher than corn ethanol and emits a low net level of greenhouse gases. Once they
learn how to break it down it should be much more economical than corn.
http://www.harvestcleanenergy.org/enews/enews_0505/enews_0505_Cellulosic_Ethanol.htm

 
At 9:15 PM, August 10, 2008, Blogger UMRBlog said...

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry I forever spell it wrong but I understand the difference.

It's the "Once they learn" that's the first issue. Transportation of raw mat'l is another issue.

Truly appreciate your positive attitude, though.

TYFCB

 
At 9:37 AM, August 11, 2008, Blogger Tspud1 said...

Maybe I should adopt the attitude of one political party, since it's going to take 7 years to get any oil we should start. There are already plants being built for Cellulosic ethanol. Why would transporting bales of switchgrass be any different than any other commodity? Remember you need 5 times less of it than corn to produce same energy. Isn't natural gas needed in corn ethanol production? I haven't found any I can invest in because they are closed to private investors.
If Russia gets away with invading Georgia maybe we could take over Mexico. Not serious but just a thought. They would be better because of the corruption in that government.

 
At 12:10 PM, August 11, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree with Tspud again, but its a for a little more selffish reason.

Just think of all the tasty pheasants that will inhabit that swithchgrass!!

*drools on shoes*

;)

p.s. then there is the bonus that I will get to sell a portion of the equipment used to harvest said pheasants.

 
At 8:34 AM, August 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mmmmmmm, tasty pheasants! Just a couple more months!

 

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