Thursday, July 05, 2007

DOC, IT HURTS WHEN I DO THIS: BY THE WAY, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST

At least seven apparently Muslim medical professionals have been detained by the Brits in connection with the bombings.

Whether charges ensue, we shall see. Whether this was evidence-based work, we may see. But there is one effect that is scarcely arguable. Just the tinge of accusation against these folks is going to make it more difficult for skilled foreign physicians to get established in the US. All of these applications are going to get more scrutiny, take more time and result in more rejections. Given that there is a nationwide physician shortage (albeit not as great as the nursing shortage but still an issue) we get hurt. Health care consumers at the bottom of the food chain will wait longer to see a Dr. and problem get less time with him/her as a result of this.

Once again, this shows there are no local impacts from geopolitical events, only global ones.

8 Comments:

At 8:39 AM, July 05, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

UMR - A nursing education is very costly. The government needs to set up incentative programs for nurses. When I went to nursing school, back in the fifties, it cost $350.00 and the hospital gave us room, board, books and uniforms in exchange for labor. It was a good deal.

 
At 1:18 PM, July 05, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Want to have nightmares for the rest of the week? Picture a row of sleeping newborns in the maternity ward. Then picture one of these doctors with a can of gasoline or a box-cutter. This is the stuff of horror movies, but it could have happened, and the only reason that it didn't was because these men were so blinded by their desire to mimic their Al Qaeda masters that they ignored their obvious skills in order to wreak havoc in the least effective manner possible.

Thank God that the NHS hires stupid doctors. It may not make for very effective health care, but at least they were too dim to fully exploit their skills and opportunities to really terrorize the world.

 
At 2:00 PM, July 05, 2007, Blogger JoeBama "Truth 101" Kelly said...

Umr: Sorry I posted on the same subject(Scooter) the last SPEAK. It was not my intent to horn in on your subject or audience.
Anyway, why do we call the terror mongering hoodlums and thugs that are incited by hatemongering assholes that use Islam as a front for their hatred, "students"? I would have no problem if the news networks take a page from Senor's book and say " a riot was caused by a hoard of dumbass pricks claiming that God wants them to kill innocent people." Instead we get "militant students that attend Ayatollah Whatshisnames Mosque demonstrated and threw projectiles while chanting death to America." I think the Senor way would be more accurate a description of the event.

 
At 9:27 PM, July 05, 2007, Blogger UMRBlog said...

O,

I think both of us being on it encouraged more perspectives.

TYFCB

 
At 4:07 AM, July 06, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a few years ago, the proportion of foreign trained doctors in the NHS was 25 percent. It is also pertinent to note that foreign-trained doctors are
substantially more likely to be charged with serious
professional misconduct. The high proportion of foreign physicians is indeed down to a lack of British
Doctors - not just from lack of students, but also because many trained Doctors choose to pursue other careers. Life in the NHS is not a rewarding experience. Some doctors have withdrawn from clinical treatment because they are constantly asked to make life-or-death decisions based
on the rationing of resources (you won't hear that story in Sicko). The socialization of medicine in the UK is responsible for a lot of problems. The importation of terrorists is just one of them.

 
At 6:09 AM, July 06, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 1:18 PM

Terrorism, Immigration and Socialized Medicine. Of course if Britain "imported" its doctors from places other than Pakistan, Jordan, and other Muslim countries, it would solve two of the issues you raised.

Still a good post on unexpected consequences.

 
At 7:17 PM, July 06, 2007, Blogger UMRBlog said...

0839,

A nursing education's increased cost in real dollars is, to some extent, due to the change in nursing from more of ministerial labor position to one of discretion and supervision. I look @ the curriculum at most major universities in nursing and I see a graduate who is so qualified and prepared that he or she would almost be foolish not to go on to become some kind of AP.

But your basic point as to cost of a nursing education is right on the money--and also global.

TYVMFCB

 
At 7:20 PM, July 06, 2007, Blogger UMRBlog said...

407 and 609,

Talk about unintended consequences! I post on a somewhat narrow consequence and I get very interesting policy implications and history. Thank you both very much.

Only thing I'll add is that some of our outstanding practitioners are also ftds.

TY Both FCB

 

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