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Obama says he appreciates the endorsement of Richardson particularly because the Governor is "Just a typical Brown Person...."
posted by UMRBlog @ 07:07
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I think it is really funny how you continually slam Obama. Youor girl hillary just didn't make the grade. No I am not a fan of Obama matter of fact I am not even a Democrat. But until your girl hillary started losing this race you couldn't care less about Obama. The people in the US see right through Billary.
You're getting pretty testy over this Obama/Clinton race Umr. It seems to me that Richardson is endorsing the candidate with the positive campaign. That's what Richardson promoted all along. If Clinton would have stayed positive and not gone to the dark side he most likely would have endorsed her. Edwards probably would have also.
Under what possible mathematic scenario do you see Hillary winning the nomination?
1813,
Damn, you mean they finished the Primary and the convention already and we have a nominee? Gol-Lee, who knew?
TYFCB
O,
You know I know and like Obama. Richardson's always been a rich guy on the make. It's his opportunism I think is unseemly.
My comments on Obama's recent damage control is just a political handler examining performance in damage control. BTW: C+
I have no patience with guys like 1813 who want to proclaim a winner now.
TYFCB
1959,
She gets more total votes than he does, out of everybody who has a vote.
There are a lot a subsets of that. Mark Halperin has just laid out four scenarios how that could happen. Is there a a less than even chance of that occuring? Sure, but Truman had no chance to beat Dewey either.
TYFCB
Here's the take over at Politico.com
One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.
Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency.
http://www.politico.com/news
/stories/0308/9149.html
1036,
Oh, wow! Thanks for that novel insight.
First of all, define "committed delegates". They're all free agents after the first ballot. Second, if the SuperD's weren't supposed to have votes, why did the committee give them votes. Third, all of this wisdom is based upon the childlike belief that the exclusion of the Florida and Michigan delegations is chiseled in stone.
As The Real President said in the lower 9th Ward the other day....just let this play out and let the people vote.
Oh, and BTW, I enjoy Politco, too. But I don't believe their individual writers have no agenda.
TYFCB
Time is the best damage control. We all forgot the right wing preachers that endorsed mcCain already. Next week the pundits will have something else to talk about. If it's anti Hillary or McCain then they will go down in the polls. But as an observer of the situation, Hillary's negative campaign and attacks on fellow Democrat Barack Obama make her a hard sell to those not totally and previously committed to her and Bill Clinton. If she manages to get the nomination, there will be a big backlash. As bad as the Republicans have allowed the economic and Iraq situations to become, McCain will have a real good chance to win because so many that came out and voted for the first time to vote for Obama will stay home. Independents will have no reason to vote for Hillary. Democrats, count me among them for the tone of her campaign, will be disenchanted with her as our candidate for President. You know I'm loyal to the core, but don't count on that loyalty to the Party from the Democrats that view a Hillary primary victory as anything but an underhanded trick worthy of Nixon.
O,
I put most of the people who talk of the "negative campaign" off as just gasbags who don't know what they're talking about. You, however, I respect. You're a playa. What has HRC said about BObama that you count as negative campaigning.
She says she's readier than he to be CIC on day one. You can disagree with her, but it's a fair point. The identical voting records on the war is a fair point. She's not responsible for the Wright crap. I'm looking to understand a different view here. Where's her negative comments about a brother senator?
Speaking of Halperin
HALPERIN’S TAKE: Painful Things Hillary Clinton Knows — Or Should Know
1. She can’t win the nomination without overturning the will of the elected delegates, which will alienate many Democrats.
2. She can’t win the nomination without a bloody convention battle — after which, even if she won, history and many Democrats would cast her as a villain.
3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question — but without re-votes in Florida and Michigan it will be almost as impossible as catching up in elected delegates.
4. Nancy Pelosi and other leading members of Congress don’t think she can win and want her to give up. Same with superdelegate-to-the-stars Donna Brazile.
5. Obama’s skilled, close-knit staff can do things like silently kill re-votes in Florida and Michigan and not pay a political price.
6. Many of her supporters — and even some of her staffers — would be relieved (and even delighted) if she quit the race; none of his supporters or staff feel that way. Some think she just might throw in the towel in June if it appears efforts to fight on would hurt Obama’s general election chances.
7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day.
8. Obama might not be able to talk that well about the new global economy, but she (and McCain) can’t either.
9. Many of the remaining prominent superdelegates want to be for Obama and she (and Harold Ickes) are just barely keeping them from making public commitments to him.
10. She can’t publicly say more than 2% of all the things she would like to say about race, electability, beating McCain and experience.
11. If she somehow found a way to win the nomination, she would have to offer Obama the veep slot, and she doesn’t want to do that.
12. This is a change election, and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton can never truly be change.
13. Obama is having fun most days, and she isn’t.
14. Even though her campaign staff is having more fun than it has for a long time, there’s hardly anyone there who, given half a chance, wouldn’t slit Mark Penn’s throat — and such internal dissension won’t help her in the home stretch.
UMR
1704
I would have to agree with you on the statement made in the first paragraph. I haven’t seen or heard of any negative campaigning from either Obama or Clinton. Just good politics. The voting public is way to sensitive when it comes to campaigns. Negative politics is calling your opponent an “asshole”. Pointing out their faults and weaknesses are not.
Neither Clinton nor Obama are ready to be CIC on the first day. At least has a Mccain has a working knowledge of the military.
You lost me on the last paragraph. Are you really that naïve to believe Hillary had nothing to do with the right Rev. Wright. Pure Clinton!
I am a Repub. I am not completely happy with McCain. But I am sitting back, laughing my butt off at the fighting between the Dems. Absolutely funny! Hoping it goes on until election day in Nov.
As far as me saying Obama is already the candidate before the convention I believe it was it was the Clinton camp that was touting her as the Queen before Super Tues. 1. Somebody (Obama) is stealing her crown!
I can't figure out how to log in with my name Potstirrer. I don't like being anonymous.
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