NUSSLEHAID, KNUCKLEHAID PROPOSAL
Iowa has a proud history of moronic gubernatorial campaigns and Jim Nussle's is no exception. Nussle's TV features "an aggressive program to detain and deport illegal aliens".
Well, Jimmy, there are a couple of problems with that. First, nobody told you that immigration policy is a Federal function. States don't deport folks. The second problem is that no state is more dependent upon migrant workers for harvest help than Iowa. Ya suppose some of those migrant folks might be undocumented? Ya suppose that some of the large farming operations needing migrants might be "your" people, GOP large scale farmers?
Maybe ya oughta buff up that TV ad a little. Maybe you could come up with a new tag line "Nussle, your kind of guy--apathetic and clueless"
posted by UMRBlog @ 05:10
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The 1996 Immigration Act, found at 8 USC 1357 section 287(g), provides that the Attorney General may enter into a written agreement with a State, or any political subdivision of a State, pursuant to which a State’s (or State subdivision’s) qualified officers or employees may perform the functions of an immigration officer in relation to investigation, apprehension or detention of aliens in the United States. The statute requires training of such officers in federal immigration law, and subjects such officers to the supervision of the Attorney General. Actions of officers under this authority are considered to be under color of federal authority for liability and immunity purposes.
Anon 1506,
Don't think I suggested peace officers couldn't detain illegals under certain circumstances. (To get a look at how well this works out read "Lines and Shadows" by Wambaugh).
You will read in vain in there for authority for the Governor of Iowa to deport folks.
TYFCB
I don't think Nussle is suggesting that the Governor of Iowa has the authority to deport folks.
From Soiux City Journal
Laying out how his administration will approach illegal immigration in Iowa if he becomes governor, Republican Jim Nussle said Tuesday he would begin a "seize and deport initiative" that would have county deputies driving those without proper documents to Omaha, Minneapolis and Kansas City to be deported...
Therefore, Nussle stated, "I believe we need to have a plan of arrest and deport in our state," including the ability for Iowa law enforcement personnel "to take the prisoners directly to the deportation centers." He said that currently "is possible, but that is not the way it is working right now. It needs to be a full partnership; it is not something that just the feds can do or just the state can do."
Seems pretty reasonable.
The second problem is that Iowa farmers don't really rely on migrant workers to harvest their corn and beans any more than Illinois farmers do. They have combines just like Illnois farmers do. The majority of illegals in Iowa work in the meat packing industry... or traffic meth.
The context of the "seize and deport" plan was meth trafficking
from Mexico by illegals. Cracking down on meat packing plant's hiring of illegals doesn't wash in states like Iowa and Nebraska. Watch the ad at YouTube. Search "Jim Nussle - Zero Tolerance."
The jist-arrest drug trafficking illegals and take them to deportation centers. The alternative seems to be apathetic and clueless.
Thanks for the forum.
Ah, yes. The mythical DEA Mexican meth cartel. Old dogs and new tricks. If there are drugs there must be a vertically integrated organization.
With meth, that's horsefeathers. Anyone with a room temperature IQ can cook it.
Nussle's ad says nothing about mexicans doing meth.
Other than in Ottumwa, most of the meat packers are coops owned by..........uh, farmers.
You sound like you're pretty close to this. What's the polling data look like? Iowa's so interesting. Open tolerant folks, yet they'll elect the odd Jim Leach once in awhile.
Again, TYFCB
Oh, MBTW, do you know how most illegals leave deportation centers? On recognizance bonds with their solem promise to return on a date certain.
(and, yes, I do understand that will be changing under the amendatory act.)
Will Check in tomorrow.
Your original post calling Nussle "apathetic and clueless" suggested the States can have no roll in immigration policy. That's not true.
It also suggested Iowa depends more than any other State on migrant workers for harvesting their crops in large farming operations. Not true. They work mainly in meat packing owned by coops of many small farmers. Probably still GOP, but not the target.
Meth from Mexico is not a myth. It is well documented. I agree Nussle's ad says nothing about Mexicans "doing" meth.
You may disagree with his plan, but calling it moronic, Knucklehaided, apathetic and clueless based on your examples is inaccurate.
Rasmussen's latest has it as a dead heat.
Thanks again.
I said Iowa has a proud history of moronic gub. campaigns.
My beef is with the words in his ad.
More later.
TYFCB
What follows is Nussle's position paper on immigration enforcement. I have copied it verbatim. Not one word in here about illegals who are committing other crimes.
"In Case You Missed It...
Nussle Plan Would 'Seize &
Deport' Illegal Immigrants
Culver Happy to Sit By & Let Illegal Immigrants Enter Iowa
09/20/2006
Mike Glover
Associated Press
Excerpts from the Associated Press
Mike Glover, 9/19/06
"Republican gubernatorial candidate Jim Nussle on Tuesday announced a hard-line immigration package featuring a ''seize and deport'' plan calling for ousting illegal immigrants as soon as they are arrested.
Iowa should punish these lawbreakers to send a clear and convincing message that people engaging in illegal activity are not welcome in Iowa,'' Nussle said. ''As governor, I will have zero tolerance for illegal immigration.''
Nussle also said he would ensure that a 4-year-old law that made English the state's official language would remain on the books. And Nussle said he would toughen ballot security measures, requiring identification and proof of citizenship before residents could cast a ballot.
''We want to encourage legal citizens to participate in the democratic process and exercise their right to vote,'' said Nussle. ''We must strengthen measures to prevent illegal immigrants from engaging in voter fraud and abusing the system.''
Nussle argued that his views on illegal immigration mark a sharp contrast with Democratic rival Chet Culver. In the past, Culver has said he would push for repeal of Iowa's English language law, and as secretary of state he has opposed requirements to show a photo ID before casting a ballot.
''It's important to learn our language because it is the foundation of success and it empowers individuals to pursue limitless opportunities,'' said Nussle. ''As someone who grew up learning another language in the home, I believe we should all strive to be multilingual and retain our heritage.''
Nussle said he learned to speak Danish growing up….
''…I believe Iowa is a pretty welcoming state, but we want to welcome people who come here legally,'' Nussle said in an interview…
…He also called for a measure to block illegal immigrants from getting in-state college tuition rates, welfare assistance and health benefits under the Medicaid program. Aides said his stance is sharply at odds with Culver.
''While Jim Nussle has a plan to stop illegal immigrants entering at the border and hold them accountable once they're here, Chet Culver is happy to sit by and let illegal immigrants continue to enter our state without fear of punishment,'' said Nussle campaign manager Nick Ryan."
Paid for By Iowans for Nussle
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Here's one that directly addresses the ad in question. If this doesn't clear it up for you, there's not much I can do.
Nussle Touts Plan to Fight
Illegal Immigration in New TV Ad
Jim Nussle's Experienced Leadership Needed to Fight Tough Problems & Keep Iowans Safe
09/28/2006
For Immediate Release
DES MOINES, IA - The Nussle campaign began airing its latest positive, issue-driven commercial today, touting Jim Nussle's plan to keep Iowans safe and secure. The ad focuses on Nussle's tough "Seize and Deport" initiative which curbs illegal immigration, crime and drugs. The spot started airing today statewide.
Jim Nussle said, "As a former prosecutor, I saw the damage drug abuse and crime has on families and communities. Iowa needs an experienced leader with a tough plan to fight the tough problems if we're going to keep our communities a safe place to live and raise a family."
Nussle's "Seize and Deport" initiative addresses the alarming fact 80% of methamphetamine in Iowa comes from Mexico. The Nussle plan cracks down on illegal immigration, illegal drugs and crime which threatens Iowa's communities. "While Iowa welcomes legal immigrants, we will not tolerate lawbreakers," Nussle said. "As Governor, I will have zero tolerance for illegal immigration."
The ad also highlights Nussle's experienced leadership fighting crime as a former prosecutor, as well as his proven record of results combating illegal drugs in Iowa. Nussle has a record of securing critical funding for the Edward Byrne Jag Grants which have directly supported county drug task forces, drug treatment centers, substance abuse centers, rural outreach programs, and child and adolescent drug prevention programs. In 2006, Nussle secured $1,170,261 for Iowa from the Byrne-JAG Program, which complemented the $1,143,236 for Iowa from the federal Methamphetamine Hot Spots Program.
Campaign Manager Nick Ryan said, "Jim Nussle has a tough plan that tackles the tough problems of illegal immigration, crime and drugs. Chet Culver has no plan to tackle the onslaught of illegal immigration in Iowa. Iowa needs the experienced leadership of Jim Nussle to keep our families and communities safe and secure."
Script for "Zero Tolerance" (:30)
ANNOUNCER: Iowa has become a drug-running pipeline for illegal aliens. 80% of meth in Iowa comes from Mexico.
We need an experienced governor to fight tough problems like illegal immigration, crime, and drugs.
As Governor, Jim Nussle will crack down on drugs, and have zero tolerance for illegal immigration.
A former prosecutor, Nussle has a tough plan to "seize and deport" illegal aliens.
?the experience you can trust to keep our communities safe?
?Jim Nussle - for Governor.
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The proposition's really pretty simple and, as a former chief prosecutor, maddening.
If he's got a plan to really focus on pushing illegals who commit felonies into the deportation centers without them going through the state courts' due process, Good on him. He's probably peeing up a rope but the effort is admirable. But nothing in his stuff really says that.
If he's going to use police resources to treat illegal residency as a stand-alone probable cause offense, he's diverting precious police resources.
I assume he wanted his press release to be comprehensive and it doesn't say that.
As for the evil Mexican Meth Cartel, it's a fairy tale in the middle of the country. The Mexicans cannot compete with the Beavis and Butthead labs. DEA agents are not allowed to say that out loud but ask any of them who worked in the Springfield MO project. As Nazi Dope came across the country, our enterprising midwesterners discovered they didn't need any help. They can cook it themselves, sacrificing the odd motel, car or stand-by child.
TYFCB.
I think you are giving this campaign credit for a level of street wisdom it doesn't have.
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