Comments on UMRBlog: A QUIZ

What's a non-disparagement clause and why would so...

2009-11-08T12:16:19.203-08:00

What's a non-disparagement clause and why would something like be necessary? Might have been a good idea to get all these types of agreements in place BEFORE you have to fire someone. Kink of like background checks on IT people.

The first sentence of that section (since it's bee...

2009-11-08T11:32:34.208-08:00

The first sentence of that section (since it's been made public, simply reading it would have been an option for you.) restricts revealing the contents of the settlement agreement, nothing more. The second and third sentences are not confidentiality provisions at all. They are non-disparagement clauses. The fourth one prohibits disclosing information that is confidential in nature "obtained while employed in a supervisory capacity or acting as an employee of the city." I'll give you just one example: As a supervisor upline for dozens of employees, he is familiar with personnel disciplinary/EAP/FMLA material, all of which is, by law, confidential. Here, I'm talking about things he knows only because he's a supervisor, not things he knows because of social relationships or off work activity.

There are other categories (collective bargaining preparations, upcoming contracting needs for example.) but even you should get the idea.

The knoll has no grass.

(This is edited where the elipse is below because ...

2009-11-08T11:00:19.001-08:00

(This is edited where the elipse is below because the writer sought to identify personal information about non-public figures. Commenter's reasoning and personal insults to me appear intact as he/she wrote them.)

Jesus H Cameron. Answer the simple question of what could possibly be considered confidential concerning Beebe's job. ..... Man up smart ass, and explain why this wasn't at it appears, hush money. Now delete this and get back to fooling your loyal readers as to what a smart man you are .

1018, In the Census at the turn of the centu...

2009-11-07T19:02:20.551-08:00

1018,

In the Census at the turn of the century, there used to be the following questions:

"Do you have an idiot in your home?"

"Do you chain it?"

Your family would have had to check the "yes" box.

BTW,

I think you meant "sordid"

0715, That's really funny. I can see it rus...

2009-11-07T19:00:17.006-08:00

0715,

That's really funny. I can see it rustling hair as it goes over heads.

TYFCB

There's so much more to this story than money for ...

2009-11-07T10:18:00.663-08:00

There's so much more to this story than money for release. Sex, lies and love letters for a start. Covering for mismanagement of this whole sorted affair is a complete abuse of tax payer dollars. Shame on you and the Spring administration for using tax money to protect yourselves. It will eventually come out.

I think it's a phantom record. 9:40 11/6 was a bo...

2009-11-07T08:38:46.187-08:00

I think it's a phantom record. 9:40 11/6 was a borderline call. It may be a record, but it's kind of like Brett Favre laying down for Strahan's 22.5 sack

0715-- Progress Report: 24 Comments before I...

2009-11-06T19:41:31.748-08:00

0715--

Progress Report: 24 Comments before I had to reject one. An upset, no?

"A promise Not to Sue." Ya think? Got some Sherl...

2009-11-06T14:49:18.797-08:00

"A promise Not to Sue."

Ya think?

Got some Sherlockin' goin' on here.

Can't put anything past them boys.

TYFCB with some comedy relief.

Even Sachs and Wilson charge this stinks of hush m...

2009-11-06T10:31:47.177-08:00

Even Sachs and Wilson charge this stinks of hush money

http://addins.wgem.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=140

"We question the judgement of Quincy officials regarding the Mike Beebe dismissal. The former Central Services director was dismissed after his arrest for disorderly conduct. The city paid out about $14,000 on money due for vacation time, unused benefits, whatever. The City then added about $19,000 to the dismissal package. That’s about three months salary for a city employee who was fired. The mayor says the extra money was “fair” given Beebe’s years of service to the city. Doug surmises the money was given as part of an agreement to assure Beebe’s silence regarding his dismissal. And, also, most likely a promise from Beebe not to sue. No one knows for sure since this information falls under confidentiality laws."

That pretty much answers the fucking question smar...

2009-11-06T09:40:33.887-08:00

That pretty much answers the fucking question smartass.

I am sure this was all about protecting "the city"...

2009-11-06T08:08:22.297-08:00

I am sure this was all about protecting "the city"

The city's pay off to the Beebster was less than t...

2009-11-06T08:05:54.906-08:00

The city's pay off to the Beebster was less than the pay out to Spizzo, we get that.

People bitched about the $400,000, they're gonna bitch about the $40,000. That's the reality of the situation.

I just re-read the quiz question, which I did writ...

2009-11-06T07:33:06.413-08:00

I just re-read the quiz question, which I did write. There's nothing about any confidentiality clause in there.

TYFCB

UMR 7:22 PM You wrote the thing. Why did you put...

2009-11-06T04:00:12.987-08:00

UMR 7:22 PM

You wrote the thing. Why did you put it in there?

1848, There's nothing about a confidentialit...

2009-11-05T19:22:24.755-08:00

1848,

There's nothing about a confidentiality clause in my quiz question.

You can do your own quiz on your own blog.

TYFCB

UDN Dave, Not every severance is a bad emplo...

2009-11-05T19:21:13.617-08:00

UDN Dave,

Not every severance is a bad employee but you still face litigation expenses when you get rid of someone with, for example, a disability or over age 40. "Right is Right" sounds real nice but certainty has a value.

TYFCB

If you can't can a bad employee without paying the...

2009-11-05T19:10:05.207-08:00

If you can't can a bad employee without paying them off, doesn't it suggest a deficiency in your HR policies and managers?

So, what's the purpose of the confidentiality clau...

2009-11-05T18:48:23.635-08:00

So, what's the purpose of the confidentiality clause?

Hey, We have three winners! You get a RELEA...

2009-11-05T17:30:01.841-08:00

Hey,

We have three winners! You get a RELEASE. No lawsuits. No EEOC proceedings. No costs of defense. No arbitrators. No video of peeps walking to court or carrying file boxes.

Cerrado.

Certainty has a value.

Very good, class.

A severance agreement should prohibit the employee...

2009-11-05T16:32:32.509-08:00

A severance agreement should prohibit the employee from filing suit on his or her own behalf against the employer from any and all claims arising from the employment relationship. It should also prohibit the employee from encouraging or assisting others in filing suit against the company.

I've always gotten a reference when I left a job M...

2009-11-05T16:28:38.514-08:00

I've always gotten a reference when I left a job Mr. C.

I'm no expert or lawyer ... but I'll play along .....

2009-11-05T15:11:44.830-08:00

I'm no expert or lawyer ... but I'll play along ...

"Release"?

Release from any liability for the "firing" ... they accept severance and give up any possible further claims (like for unjust firing)?

ah...sweet release

2009-11-05T13:52:53.506-08:00

ah...sweet release

Am I dealing with all knuckleheads here? The ques...

2009-11-05T13:16:32.168-08:00

Am I dealing with all knuckleheads here? The question is not that hard.

Hint number two:

It starts with an "R" is the one thing that is always in all Severance agreement prepared by lawyers.

What would have value for ANY EMPLOYER? Get out of your own way, peeps.